On 2020-03-23 01:28 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 3/22/2020 10:32 AM, Auke Kok wrote:
> On 3/22/20 12:58 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>>> Which is outside the scope of what we're trying to do with
>>> ClearLinux OS.
>> i don't see why intel would chose the full gnome desktop with gdm if
>> clear linux os desktop didn't have consider providing a complete
>> desktop experience as within their scope in the first place.
> I guess this is the core point: we can try to explain what we do, but,
> it's virtually impossible to (1) get everyone to understand it, and
> worse, (2) get everyone to agree with it.
> I guess you can say that "packaging gnome/gdm" is, in your view, a
> commitment to "providing a complete desktop experience". In our view,
> it is not.
the emphasize this, as I wrote in my first response to you a few days
ago, we are aiming at developers not general users.
part of that is that we know there will be rough edges, and that's
i think you are getting confused by being unreasonably tangential.
if you were (as you say) really aiming at developers instead of general
users, you definitely "would not" have chosen to run with 'gnome' and
'gdm' as the defaults.
real developers don't need the flash and pizzazz of a full desktop
environment, just those developers who are wimpy snowflakes do.
but then, you are as i'd mentioned getting confused between which set of
developers to target.
super smooth boot experience at the expense of faster boot is one of
those tradeoffs. developers (especially kernel developers) tend to
prefer a much faster boot
over a more pretty boot.
are you really targeting kernel developers?
be honest, if not to us (in public), to yourself (in private), and do
that while staring at your own face in a mirror.
you are as i'd mentioned in a previous email, just "showing-off" a toy
project and creating a lot of buzz around it.
i bet the costs associated with this project would amount to
loose-change from the pockets of intel, no wonder you are doing a
i think am going to stick with ubuntu.
they are really clear about what they are doing and they deliver on
i just hope canonical pulls-in your optimisation techniques and beats
the pants off your "toy project".