Glad to know it's possible and thanks for the useful pointers. Going to give try this a try now :) Chris On 4/4/20 1:13 AM, Auke Kok wrote: > > On 4/3/20 6:40 PM, Chris Milne wrote: >> >> Would it be OK to install this version and then do an in-place OS >> upgrade? Or, perhaps an alternative course of action is preferable. > > > Yes. My advice would be > > - ensure the updates complete before you install any software, repeat > until you're current. You will see the updates go from X to Y to Z and > may need to rerun the update once or twice, especially with a version > that old > > - take care your kernel is properly setup and configured before you > reboot > > - run a swupd repair --picky at the end and repeat until nothing is left. > > These are paranoid steps but you want to start out with a clean > install and version numbers in the 20k are 3+ years old now, so > there's likely some minor huccups that might accumulate. > > Other than that, I've done this once or twice, and it usually works. :) > > Auke > >

That would make sense, I don't think at that time we had finished the Aliyun integration that is needed for micro-config-drive to even work. We have some colleagues that used to work on this a while back, I'll ask them to comment and maybe in a few days we can hear back from them. In the mean time, you likely have no option but to create your own custom images, so you likely just want to wait until tue/wed. Auke On 4/4/20 7:14 PM, Chris Milne wrote: > So, much to my disappointment, we couldn't even make it the boot > loader :/ > > On a new instance of the 20370 image, it shows a black screen with a > TianoCore logo when connecting via the web console. > > https://imgur.com/a/dAysOIT > > Has anyone else besides myself perhaps had better luck getting CL > running on Alicloud? > > On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Chris Milne wrote: >> Glad to know it's possible and thanks for the useful pointers. Going >> to give try this a try now :) >> >> Chris >> >> On 4/4/20 1:13 AM, Auke Kok wrote: >>> >>> On 4/3/20 6:40 PM, Chris Milne wrote: >>>> >>>> Would it be OK to install this version and then do an in-place OS >>>> upgrade? Or, perhaps an alternative course of action is preferable. >>> >>> >>> Yes. My advice would be >>> >>> - ensure the updates complete before you install any software, >>> repeat until you're current. You will see the updates go from X to Y >>> to Z and may need to rerun the update once or twice, especially with >>> a version that old >>> >>> - take care your kernel is properly setup and configured before you >>> reboot >>> >>> - run a swupd repair --picky at the end and repeat until nothing is >>> left. >>> >>> These are paranoid steps but you want to start out with a clean >>> install and version numbers in the 20k are 3+ years old now, so >>> there's likely some minor huccups that might accumulate. >>> >>> Other than that, I've done this once or twice, and it usually works. :) >>> >>> Auke >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list -- dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave(a)lists.clearlinux.org

We do produce an Aliyun image, but it was based on requirements given to us from our colleagues over there and we don’t have validation of that image in our daily release activities. Consequently we don’t advertise it along with the rest of our validated images. But you could give it a try and let us know if it works: https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/clear-32750-aliyun.i... If this works but would like an image baked differently you can modify the config file and use clr-installer to make your own. https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/config/image/aliyun.... https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32760/clear/config/image/README.... -Rob

I didn't get a reply back from one of our engineers who I worked with to enable micro-config-drive for Aliyun a while back. It is supposed to pick up the SSH key through a normal openstack-like HTTP fetch over IP (see https://github.com/clearlinux/micro-config-drive - for more info) and plant it in place. It's possible that indeed it's just as simple as choosing the right OS here would work (Customized Linux? Maybe even Aliyun?!). Glad it's working though! Auke On 4/5/20 7:46 PM, Chris Milne wrote: > This is great. I was able to get it up and running with the new 32750 > image you sent over. > > The "ssh-key on instance install" didn't kick in, but that's fine. > Just manually enabled root login for ssh (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) via > the web console and went from there to get keys copied over. > > The SSH install issue might be related to the image wizard. When I was > importing the custom image Aliyun asked me too specify the Platform (a > required field). Options were, CentOS, Ubuntu, CoreOS, Aliyun, Debian, > SUSE, OpenSUSE, FreeBSD, RedHat, Others Linux, Customized Linux. I > chose "Others Linux", but not sure it even matters? > > Haven't had a chance yet to test everything with required installs > (python, etc), though so far it's looking promising > > Thanks again for the help :) > > On 4/5/20 1:27 PM, Nesius, Robert A wrote: >>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Chris Milne <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> Ahh. Thanks for the additional context. >>> >>> Rolling a custom image may indeed be beyond my pay grade. Perhaps >>> best then to wait and see what team come back with. >>> >>> Obviously CL would be first prize because it's so performant, >>> minimalist and, and, and,  Ok fine, I'll stop gushing ;) >>> >>> That said, it sounds like running on Aliyun may or may not be a >>> priority right now, so not getting hopes up just yet. >> We do produce an Aliyun image, but it was based on requirements given >> to us from our colleagues over there and we don’t have validation of >> that image in our daily release activities. Consequently we don’t >> advertise it along with the rest of our validated images. >> >> But you could give it a try and let us know if it works: >> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/clear-32750-aliyun.i... >> >> >> If this works but would like an image baked differently you can >> modify the config file and use clr-installer to make your own. >> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/config/image/aliyun.... >> >> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32760/clear/config/image/README.... >> >> >> -Rob >> > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list -- dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave(a)lists.clearlinux.org

The image is supposed to be provisioned to have the `clear` user that can remotely access the machine using the SSH key you provided. That is how micro-config-drive works for all these cloud cases. (AWS etc work this way). The user gets created dynamically at boot. You can even manually run this after boot and test it: `/usr/bin/ucd-data-fetch aliyun` as root should work. It also may provide some debug output explaining why it didn't create the `clear` user. Auke On 4/8/20 1:06 PM, Chris Milne wrote: > No worries. I might try a Customized or Aliyun Platform choice for the > next instance and see how that goes. Will report back if find anything > interesting 😀 > > On a side note noticed this Ali image is slightly different from the > AWS one in at least one respect. That is it has a "root" user for > doing admin type things, whereas the AWS uses "clear" as a superuser. > > Was thinking of adding a "clear" user to keep things consistent, > though didn't know if there any edge cases I might miss doing so. > > Guessing the idea behind the "clear" admin user is better security and > foot gun protection for noobs like myself :p > > On 4/7/20 5:10 PM, Auke Kok wrote: >> >> I didn't get a reply back from one of our engineers who I worked with >> to enable micro-config-drive for Aliyun a while back. It is supposed >> to pick up the SSH key through a normal openstack-like HTTP fetch >> over IP (see https://github.com/clearlinux/micro-config-drive - for >> more info) and plant it in place. It's possible that indeed it's just >> as simple as choosing the right OS here would work (Customized Linux? >> Maybe even Aliyun?!). >> >> >> Glad it's working though! >> >> >> Auke >> >> >> On 4/5/20 7:46 PM, Chris Milne wrote: >>> This is great. I was able to get it up and running with the new >>> 32750 image you sent over. >>> >>> The "ssh-key on instance install" didn't kick in, but that's fine. >>> Just manually enabled root login for ssh (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) via >>> the web console and went from there to get keys copied over. >>> >>> The SSH install issue might be related to the image wizard. When I >>> was importing the custom image Aliyun asked me too specify the >>> Platform (a required field). Options were, CentOS, Ubuntu, CoreOS, >>> Aliyun, Debian, SUSE, OpenSUSE, FreeBSD, RedHat, Others Linux, >>> Customized Linux. I chose "Others Linux", but not sure it even matters? >>> >>> Haven't had a chance yet to test everything with required installs >>> (python, etc), though so far it's looking promising >>> >>> Thanks again for the help :) >>> >>> On 4/5/20 1:27 PM, Nesius, Robert A wrote: >>>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Chris Milne <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ahh. Thanks for the additional context. >>>>> >>>>> Rolling a custom image may indeed be beyond my pay grade. Perhaps >>>>> best then to wait and see what team come back with. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously CL would be first prize because it's so performant, >>>>> minimalist and, and, and,  Ok fine, I'll stop gushing ;) >>>>> >>>>> That said, it sounds like running on Aliyun may or may not be a >>>>> priority right now, so not getting hopes up just yet. >>>> We do produce an Aliyun image, but it was based on requirements >>>> given to us from our colleagues over there and we don’t have >>>> validation of that image in our daily release activities. >>>> Consequently we don’t advertise it along with the rest of our >>>> validated images. >>>> >>>> But you could give it a try and let us know if it works: >>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/clear-32750-aliyun.i... >>>> >>>> >>>> If this works but would like an image baked differently you can >>>> modify the config file and use clr-installer to make your own. >>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/config/image/aliyun.... >>>> >>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32760/clear/config/image/README.... >>>> >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list -- dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave(a)lists.clearlinux.org

Good to know - thanks for that. -Rob On 4/9/20, 11:04 AM, "Chris Milne" <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt; wrote: Hi Auke So just an update on the SSH provisioning. I tried "Customized Linux" for the Platform and that didn't work. Then I tried your other suggestion of "Aliyun Linux" and suddenly it was accepting SSH connections (previously no SSH was working at all). However it was still prompting for a password, despite the SSH negotiation offering my key. So then instead I tried `ssh aliyun@serverip` and lo and behold that worked :) Basically it seems that the admin user is called "aliyun" instead of "clear" as in the case of AWS. I see that now looking at the src of ucd-data-fetch.c https://github.com/clearlinux/micro-config-drive/blob/master/src/ucd-data... Chris On 4/8/20 4:55 PM, Auke Kok wrote:

Thanks for the update May. Just a heads up, I tried testing this out. However for me the link you sent takes me to a Chinese language only page (YMMV). As a result I'm struggling to understand what it says or how to use it. :p In the English interface when I'm logged into Aliyun it's still only showing the 20370 image as available. (at least for the Hong Kong region) On 4/9/20 6:54 PM, Xie, May wrote: > Alibaba just added back new Clear Linux (31960) to their marketplace. You may try it. > > https://market.aliyun.com/products/57742013/cmjj026649.html?spm=5176.7300... > > May > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nesius, Robert A <robert.a.nesius(a)intel.com&gt; > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:50 PM > To: Chris Milne <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt;; Kok, Auke-jan H <auke-jan.h.kok(a)intel.com&gt;; dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org > Subject: [Clr-dev] Re: Alicloud/Aliyun Marketplace availability > > Good to know - thanks for that. > > -Rob > > On 4/9/20, 11:04 AM, "Chris Milne" <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi Auke > > So just an update on the SSH provisioning. I tried "Customized Linux" > for the Platform and that didn't work. > > Then I tried your other suggestion of "Aliyun Linux" and suddenly it was > accepting SSH connections (previously no SSH was working at all). > However it was still prompting for a password, despite the SSH > negotiation offering my key. > > So then instead I tried `ssh aliyun@serverip` and lo and behold that > worked :) > > Basically it seems that the admin user is called "aliyun" instead of > "clear" as in the case of AWS. > > I see that now looking at the src of ucd-data-fetch.c > > https://github.com/clearlinux/micro-config-drive/blob/master/src/ucd-data... > > Chris > > On 4/8/20 4:55 PM, Auke Kok wrote: > > > > The image is supposed to be provisioned to have the `clear` user that > > can remotely access the machine using the SSH key you provided. That > > is how micro-config-drive works for all these cloud cases. (AWS etc > > work this way). > > > > The user gets created dynamically at boot. You can even manually run > > this after boot and test it: `/usr/bin/ucd-data-fetch aliyun` as root > > should work. It also may provide some debug output explaining why it > > didn't create the `clear` user. > > > > Auke > > > > > > On 4/8/20 1:06 PM, Chris Milne wrote: > >> No worries. I might try a Customized or Aliyun Platform choice for > >> the next instance and see how that goes. Will report back if find > >> anything interesting 😀 > >> > >> On a side note noticed this Ali image is slightly different from the > >> AWS one in at least one respect. That is it has a "root" user for > >> doing admin type things, whereas the AWS uses "clear" as a superuser. > >> > >> Was thinking of adding a "clear" user to keep things consistent, > >> though didn't know if there any edge cases I might miss doing so. > >> > >> Guessing the idea behind the "clear" admin user is better security > >> and foot gun protection for noobs like myself :p > >> > >> On 4/7/20 5:10 PM, Auke Kok wrote: > >>> > >>> I didn't get a reply back from one of our engineers who I worked > >>> with to enable micro-config-drive for Aliyun a while back. It is > >>> supposed to pick up the SSH key through a normal openstack-like HTTP > >>> fetch over IP (see https://github.com/clearlinux/micro-config-drive > >>> - for more info) and plant it in place. It's possible that indeed > >>> it's just as simple as choosing the right OS here would work > >>> (Customized Linux? Maybe even Aliyun?!). > >>> > >>> > >>> Glad it's working though! > >>> > >>> > >>> Auke > >>> > >>> > >>> On 4/5/20 7:46 PM, Chris Milne wrote: > >>>> This is great. I was able to get it up and running with the new > >>>> 32750 image you sent over. > >>>> > >>>> The "ssh-key on instance install" didn't kick in, but that's fine. > >>>> Just manually enabled root login for ssh (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) via > >>>> the web console and went from there to get keys copied over. > >>>> > >>>> The SSH install issue might be related to the image wizard. When I > >>>> was importing the custom image Aliyun asked me too specify the > >>>> Platform (a required field). Options were, CentOS, Ubuntu, CoreOS, > >>>> Aliyun, Debian, SUSE, OpenSUSE, FreeBSD, RedHat, Others Linux, > >>>> Customized Linux. I chose "Others Linux", but not sure it even > >>>> matters? > >>>> > >>>> Haven't had a chance yet to test everything with required installs > >>>> (python, etc), though so far it's looking promising > >>>> > >>>> Thanks again for the help :) > >>>> > >>>> On 4/5/20 1:27 PM, Nesius, Robert A wrote: > >>>>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Chris Milne <cmilne(a)mailfence.com&gt; > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ahh. Thanks for the additional context. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rolling a custom image may indeed be beyond my pay grade. Perhaps > >>>>>> best then to wait and see what team come back with. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Obviously CL would be first prize because it's so performant, > >>>>>> minimalist and, and, and, Ok fine, I'll stop gushing ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That said, it sounds like running on Aliyun may or may not be a > >>>>>> priority right now, so not getting hopes up just yet. > >>>>> We do produce an Aliyun image, but it was based on requirements > >>>>> given to us from our colleagues over there and we don’t have > >>>>> validation of that image in our daily release activities. > >>>>> Consequently we don’t advertise it along with the rest of our > >>>>> validated images. > >>>>> > >>>>> But you could give it a try and let us know if it works: > >>>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/clear-32750-aliyun.i... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If this works but would like an image baked differently you can > >>>>> modify the config file and use clr-installer to make your own. > >>>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32750/clear/config/image/aliyun.... > >>>>> > >>>>> https://download.clearlinux.org/releases/32760/clear/config/image/README.... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -Rob > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Dev mailing list -- dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave(a)lists.clearlinux.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list -- dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave(a)lists.clearlinux.org