On 3/7/2019 1:23 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy wrote: > Hi, > > The new installer offers three kernels to choose from [1]: native, lts and pk. I never paid attention to the 'kernel-pk' version when I got curious this morning. According to its description, it's deprecated and also really only installs the kernel-iot-lts2018 bundle. I would suggest that we update the installer to either remove this third kernel option or rename it iot-lts2018 to make it clearer what this is about. If the proper way to update this is to send a PR to the 'clr-installer' repo, I can do that, just let me know. > absolutely; the pk kernel is (like the iot-lts kernel) for one piece of specific hardware only and should not be offered (or installed) on other hardware _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org https://lists.clearlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

On 3/7/2019 9:08 AM, Horn, Mark D wrote: > So are we asking it be removed as an option? > Or some check added to only offer this kernel for a specific platform? we should remove it. the special platform that this kernel is for does not use our installer.

This will drop the list of user choices of the kernel for interactive installations to two, either: Native or LTS.

Native is the default unless you run in Virtualbox where the default switches to LTS. I'll submit a change today. --mark On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Horn, Mark D <mark.d.horn(a)intel.com&gt; wrote: > Ok, thanks. > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt; > wrote: > >> On 3/7/2019 9:08 AM, Horn, Mark D wrote: >> > So are we asking it be removed as an option? >> > Or some check added to only offer this kernel for a specific platform? >> >> we should remove it. the special platform that this kernel is for does >> not use our installer. >> > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list Dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org https://lists.clearlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

I'm removing 'kernel-pk'.

Which would leave just two bundles: kernel-native kernel-lts Are we also asking for the interactive installer to offer up 'kernel-lts2018' at a third option?

'kernel-lts2017' is not in a release yet, but is this also needed?

How do we coordinate these requirements moving forward?

--mark On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 11:26 AM Miguel Bernal Marin < miguel.bernal.marin(a)linux.intel.com&gt; wrote: > > This will drop the list of user choices of the kernel for interactive > > installations to two, either: Native or LTS. > > To tree ;-) > > Native, LTS2018 and LTS2017 > > LTS will be deprecated in near future for those LTS with years. > > > > > > Native is the default unless you run in Virtualbox where the default > > switches to LTS. > > > > I'll submit a change today. > > > > --mark > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Horn, Mark D <mark.d.horn(a)intel.com&gt; > wrote: > > > > > Ok, thanks. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:10 AM Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 3/7/2019 9:08 AM, Horn, Mark D wrote: > > >> > So are we asking it be removed as an option? > > >> > Or some check added to only offer this kernel for a specific > platform? > > >> > > >> we should remove it. the special platform that this kernel is for does > > >> not use our installer. > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev mailing list > > Dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org > > https://lists.clearlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- > Regards, > > Miguel Bernal Marin Open Source Technology Center > https://clearlinux.org Intel Corporation >

-----Original Message----- From: Macieira, Thiago Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:50 PM To: dev(a)lists.clearlinux.org Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan(a)linux.intel.com&gt;; VanCutsem, Geoffroy <geoffroy.vancutsem(a)intel.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Clr-dev] Question regarding the installer and kernel-pk bundle On Thursday, 7 March 2019 06:20:59 PST Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 3/7/2019 1:23 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The new installer offers three kernels to choose from [1]: native, > > lts and pk. I never paid attention to the 'kernel-pk' version when I > > got curious this morning. According to its description, it's > > deprecated and also really only installs the kernel-iot-lts2018 > > bundle. I would suggest that we update the installer to either > > remove this third kernel option or rename it iot-lts2018 to make it > > clearer what this is about. If the proper way to update this is to > > send a PR to the 'clr-installer' repo, I can do that, just let me know. > absolutely; the pk kernel is (like the iot-lts kernel) for one piece > of specific hardware only and should not be offered (or installed) on > other hardware *Currently* it is that. There's only one specific hardware that needs this kernel and the the team behind it is not really doing wide testing. That's why it's currently called "kernel-iot"

However, the long-term goal is to make the "pk" kernel be suitable for a lot more people, with further Intel enhancements that have not made it to the ones from kernel.org. Especially backports of content from latest stable onto the latest LTS. Who those "more people" will be remains to be seen. If users running Clear in datacentres want nothing to do with the PK, then PK team should not be spending time on that. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel System Software Products